offer of the day – faiveley 2017…

3.2.2019billn

Whilst I may have missed the 14s, here you can see the ‘progression’ of same merchant’s prices (in Switzerland) for the 12s, 13s, 15s, 16s and now the 2017s. The format here for the prices is simple: 2017 (2016, 2015, 2013, 2012) and — if not previously offered…

DOMAINE FAIVELEY 2017 – En Primeur

PREMIERS CRUS
Pommard Rugiens 2017 75cl 75.00 (86.00, —)
Gevrey-Chambertin Clos des Issarts 2017 75cl 69.00 (—)
Gevrey-Chambertin Les Cazetiers 2017 75cl 79.00 (84.00, 78.00, 72.50, 69.80) Swiss Francs*
Gevrey-Chambertin Les Cazetiers 2017 150cl 163.00 (173.00, 161.00, —, —)
Nuits-Saint-Georges Les Saint-Georges 2017 75cl 99.00 (115.00, 98.00, 98.00, 98.00)
Nuits-Saint-Georges Les Saint-Georges 2017 150cl — (235.00, —)
Chambolle-Musigny Les Fuées 2017 75cl 125.00 (135.00, 128.00, 119.00, 119.00)
Chambolle-Musigny la Combe d’Orveau 2017 75cl 119.00 (132.00, 124.00, 119.00, 119.00)
Chambolle-Musigny Les Amoureuses 2017 75cl 199.00 (249.00, 229.00, 228.00, 228.00)

GRAND CRUS
Corton Clos des Cortons 2017 75cl 149.00 (169.00, 149.00, 139.00, 139)
Corton Clos des Cortons 2017 150cl 303.00 (343.00, 303.00, 283.00, 283)
Corton Clos des Cortons 2017 300cl 656.00 (736.00, 656.00, —, —)
Echezeaux 2017 75cl — (165.00, 149.00, —, —)
Mazis-Chambertin 2017 75cl 178.00 (198.00, 179.00, 167.00, 169)
Mazis-Chambertin 2017 150cl 361.00 (401.00, 363.00, —, —)
Mazis-Chambertin 2017 300cl 776.00 (852.00, 776.00, —, —)
Grands Echezeaux 2017 75cl 188.00 (208.00, 198.00, 198.00, —)
Charmes-Chambertin 2017 75cl — (165.00, —)
Latricières-Chambertin 2017 75cl 165.00 (189.00, —)
Clos de Vougeot 2017 75cl — (159.00, —)
Chambertin Clos de Bèze 2017 75cl 249.00 (299.00, 278.00, 249.00, 235)
Chambertin Clos de Bèze 2017 150cl 503.00 (603.00, 561.00, 503.00, 475)
Chambertin Clos de Bèze 2017 300cl 1,056.00 (1,256.00, 1,172.00, —, —)
Chambertin Clos de Bèze Les Ouvrées Rodin 2017 75cl 698.00 (745.00, 659.00, 598.00, 598)

Bâtard-Montrachet 2017 75cl — (298.00, —)
Bienvenues Bâtard-Montrachet 2017 75cl — (269.00, —)
Corton Charlemagne 2017 75cl 189.00 (189.00, 169.00, 169.00, 159)

*There is 8% Tax to add in Switzerland, but then these are delivered prices

The first really significant price decreases that I have seen for 2017 – that said, the prices have only dropped to be in-line with 2015, though the quality is more that of 2014 – still, 2012-2015 were relatively stable prices chez Faiveley for this merchant. Only the Charlemagne seems to ‘justify’ the higher prices of yore…

Agree? Disagree? Anything you'd like to add?

There are 4 responses to “offer of the day – faiveley 2017…”

  1. goughie133rd February 2019 at 12:24 pmPermalinkReply

    Interesting stuff Bill, thanks for this. First reductions I’ve seen too – that said haven’t really been paying attention as not in the market EP and never bought other than an odd older Faiveley bottle.

    Maybe less than appropriate to single out one wine but, without having my calculator out, the one that seemed to stand out for me (in terms of level of reduction) is Amoureuses ? Are you aware of any particular reason there – not that I’ll be buying as above 😉 ?

    • billn3rd February 2019 at 12:40 pmPermalinkReply

      Well I suppose that the obvious one would be the lack of frost in Chambolle in 2017 – there were roughly 80% losses for the village in 2016 – though the price drop is much more than the recent increases. Would it be churlish to suggest the wine was hard to place at the higher pricing – regardless of availablity(?) As François Millet of de Vogüé noted last year:

      “At the domaine in 2016 we lost 70% to the frost – there was no favouring of villages or Musigny, they were equally frosted. I’ve never seen such a small production since I came here in 1985.”

  2. Paul van der Vaart3rd February 2019 at 12:27 pmPermalinkReply

    Similar price drop ~ 7% : Albert Morot Beaune 1er Crus 2017 EP compared to 2016 EP

    • billn3rd February 2019 at 12:35 pmPermalinkReply

      Interesting – thanks Paul – I’d be surprised if the 2017s here have been bottled yet – but a good indicator.

  3. goughie133rd February 2019 at 12:58 pmPermalinkReply

    Thanks, sage ‘observation’ perhaps at placing at higher pricing. Can certainly acknowledge the Chambolle 2016 situation from my Arlaud experiences that year were, as best can recall without specific checking, we didn’t go to any of the domaine’s Chambolle premier crus (Noirots, Sentiers and Chatelots). Similarly no picking in the negoce NSG (Porrets).

  4. Paul van der Vaart3rd February 2019 at 6:19 pmPermalinkReply

    Morot’s 2017s can be picked up as of Feb 1, 2019.

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