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ponsot 02 morey st.denis 1er clos des monts luisants vv

By billn on December 10, 2008 #degustation#p.ox

ponsot morey saint denis clos des monts luisants vieilles vignes

The pic is from my bottle of the 2001, whereas this 2002 by comparison disappoints. Medium gold and plenty of oxidative aromas and flavours. Given that I (the hater of oxidation) still drank 3 glasses, shows there is still something positive to be said for the wine – though this is clearly an aberration – (mainly) aligoté isn’t susceptible to p.ox is it?
2002 Ponsot, Morey St.Denis 1er Clos des Monts Luisants Vieilles Vignestry to find this wine...
Medium gold. The nose hits you with mild oxidation and a pronounced mineral note. The palate is concentrated and mouth-watering – very long with the help of that acidity too. The oxidation is there in the flavours but on a lower level than the nose. Lots of dimension in the mid-palate but a shame the bottle is spoiled so…
Rebuy – Maybe another bottle

“white burgundy time-bomb…”

By billn on March 08, 2008 #other sites#p.ox

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jane macquittyWelcome Jane – but about 2-3 years late for many of your readers.

I wonder if this more public discussion will finally start to reduce the auction price of 1995 and younger wines. Those prices have previously held up remarkably well in the face of owners ‘getting rid’ (dumping). If auction prices plummet, what then for retail prices…?

Clearly the challenge for the Burgundy PR machine (and scientists) will increase, their quietly, quietly approach may have to change gear.

ouch – potential p.ox from a benchmark wine

By billn on November 24, 2007 #degustation#p.ox

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Thursday was just your average evening: me gatecrashing a dinner in Beaune with 3 former ‘harvest (07) mates’, plus two winemakers and someone ‘ITB’ (in the business) from Australia…

Prompted by an earlier Henri Boillot bottle that was more than a little tired I had decided that I had to open a 2001 Corton-Charlemagne. I hadn’t tasted this in the last couple of years, but the first three bottles of a six-pack were seriously (and serially) stunning – I never had a better Charlemagne. I took the same occasion to try another (as yet, recently untasted) 2001 Charlemagne from Dubreuil-Fontaine and added a little Mischief & Mayhem 2005 Puligny Caillerets to oil the wheels:

  1. 2005 M&M Puligny-Montrachet 1er Les Caillerets: try to find this wine... Light colour. With the first sniff, everyone said ‘typical 2005’ – ripe, forward, rich etc. Was a great start before we moved to…
    Rebuy – Yes
  2. 2001 Dubreuil-Fontaine Corton-Charlemagne: try to find this wine... Light colour. Tight, mineral, less obviously ripe. Austere and concentrated – probably what most 5/6 year-old Charlemagnes would aspire to!
    Rebuy – Maybe
  3. 2001 Henri Boillot Corton-Charlemagne: try to find this wine... Not light colour – at least not when using the previous two as reference. Very ripe, honey on the nose. In the mouth it’s fat and concentrated – no obvious oxidation aromas or flavours – but not the zing, not the painful intensity and not the haunting finish of those first bottles – comment from winemaker friend #2: “you called me round just to taste this?” – ouch.
    Rebuy – No

This Boillot is now ‘only’ a good wine, no-longer a great one. It’s a significant fall from its peak and my last two bottles will be drunk in the next 6 months – at €60 I won’t leave one for academic interest – N.B. the 2005 is more like €100…

After that, we all went back to the Dubreuil to confirm how austere it was before finishing every last drop of the evening’s ‘honey’ the M&M – just a very, very classy wine.

For the record, we also had a lovely 2001 l’Arlot NSG Fôrets de l’Arlot, a sadly ‘flat-ish’ 1990 Dom Ruinart Rosé and a 2001 Amiot-Servelle Clos de Vougeot that showed poor aromatics but was ‘okay’ in the mouth… Oh, and the company was great 😉

sauzet 2000 villages chassagne

By billn on March 06, 2007 #degustation#p.ox

oxidised2000 Etienne Sauzet, Chassagne-Montrachettry to find this wine...
Golden colour – maybe a little too golden for the vintage. The nose confirms it, oxidised – not too badly to drink, or too strident – a level that would be forgivable if it was ten years older. The palate has some width and creamy, oaky flavours of reasonable length. Despite almost good acidity there is no energy here.
Our winemaker lunch companion summed it up in one word – tired.
Rebuy – No

premature oxidation research

By billn on January 26, 2007 #p.ox#the market

oxidation alertI was recently able to meet the press attaché Cécile Mathiaud and Michel Baldassini, the head of the main Burgundy wine growers’ association, the (BIVB) – he is also head of the Cave Coopérative de Lugny.

My reason was to try and get a perspective in the research of the BIVB into the phenomenon of ‘premature oxidation’ – or as the BIVB prefer to say – ‘pre-aging’.

If there is one thing about this whole episode that particularly rankles, it was the impression that the growers association was rather tight-lipped about the issue. Given that it became apparent that research was underway, I thought it pertinent to ask ‘since when?’ and ‘what the trigger was to start?’:

Actually, concerning our researches we did it in 2 parts.

First, by the end of the 90’s, we started to have a closer look on the pre-aging problem. We do have a SAQ (Suivi Aval Qualité – a survey of our wines through France and the world – we pick bottles in shops and taste them to check whether they are okay and not – when they are not okay we make an analysis to find where the fault comes from, so that we may give advice to our producers). So with the SAQ we started to have a picture on the question of pre-aging and as soon as we found clues on where to start (in 2004/2005) the concrete research started in our labs.

We started concrete researches as soon as we were certain that the problem would have several factors and we could work on them.

So, even if the BIVB were ‘tight-lipped’ at least they were not turning a ‘blind-eye’!

I appreciate they do not want to spread alarm, but I’m sure some proactive discussion on their website, or an article in Bourgogne-Aujourd’hui might have been helpful – certainly once the vocal group of collectors that contribute to the forum on Robert Parker’s website began their mammoth discussion. The silence was not golden.

Coming back to the “several factors to work on”, these took in primarily;

  • ‘generous’ yields
  • must pressing
  • use of sulfur dioxide
  • ‘closures’

Summarising our discussion, Michel didn’t give the impression of wishing to pre-discuss the findings to-date, but seems to believe that no ‘one cause’ will be found. At the very least, he is hoping that they can come forward and express a framework for the growers that will minimise the risks factors for ‘pre-aging’.

The results should be delivered in mid 2007, but it was not exactly clear how the results might be diffused; Michel said that ‘of-course diffusion of the results in the form of recommendations would be important for growers, particularly as potential causes are (might be) eliminated’. My feeling is that they will benefit from an open appraisal of the results and the dialogue that should follow.

We discussed several issues in an informal way, but it was an interesting observation from Michel when he said ‘if, in the end it comes down to needing more sulfur dioxide, it will be interesting to see how the market might react to wines that need opening 2 hours before consuming – to avoid the bottle stink – this could be the choice…’

the bad and the good – chassagne

By billn on November 24, 2006 #degustation#p.ox

oxidation hazard Two wines – both from Marc Morey. A 2001 that started very subdued and not so interesting, but ended up rather nice – however, I shall start with a worrying ‘turkey’:
2002 Marc Morey, Chassagne 1er Morgeottry to find this wine...
Medium-plus golden – certainly a worrying colour for one so young. The nose confirms quite a high level of oxidation. For me (with a significant dislike of oxidation) this was barely drinkable. If you have this wine check it now – urgently!
Rebuy – No

A much better wine (without doubt) follows, but given the above I wouldn’t buy any, even though (based on the bottle) I say “rebuy – yes“! In-fact I’ve had quite a bit of bad luck from this producer in the last 6 weeks – 3 chassagne 1ers; 1 red which was corked, one white which is prematurely oxidised and one last white (below) which was almost good – but I don’t like those odds!
2001 Marc Morey, Chassagne-Montrachet 1er En Virondottry to find this wine...
Medium gold. The nose starts rather muted before going through a citrusy-melon phase, slowly becoming more and more creamy and very faintly smelling of fireworks. The palate is quite soft and clean with good acidity and a nicely long finish. Slowly mouthwatering, this is a nice wine that really benefits from an hour of air.
Rebuy – Yes

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