RSV – what a difference a little patience makes…


Okay, in this instance nearly 25 years of patience for this, the last of the ‘cheap St.Vivants!’

Okay, cheap is certainly relative; this 1999 vintage still cost 80 Swiss Francs a bottle on release – about £40 a bottle at the prevailing exchange rate – I bought a whole case – remember 12-bottle cases? That price was the same as Engel’s Grand Echézeaux and Leroy’s Domaine Savigny 1er Les Narbantons – I bought those on release too, but that latter wine was finished 2 years ago…

This parcel was sold to Wilf Jaeger in 2005 who passed it on via a fermage agreement to Dujac to make the wine. I later heard from more than one source that all was not well between the two parties, so it’s no surprise that Dujac never show the wine – I hope that things are now on a more even keel. I don’t know the current status of this parcel between the parties…

Thomas-Moillard (and sometimes later labelled Domaine Charles Thomas) used ‘rotary fermenters’ during this period – ultra extraction – so it was hardly a surprise when they made hard wines – more of a surprise was that the 1998 and 2000 of this wine were so delicious and at a young age too – maybe they felt that they had to extract more in what they thought was a good vintage!

And, right from the start, what a wine this was – hard as nails! It was still impenetrable at 20 years old so I’m mildly shocked by how it’s now showing!

1999 Thomas-Moillard, Romanée St.Vivant
Lots of colour. A little alcoholic and still with a slug of creamy, almost resinous, aromatic oak – but also a hint of floral perfume too – and that’s new. Mouth-filling, silky, with a certain richness to the texture and depth of flavour – where has this fine texture come from? And come to that, where has the hard personality and tannin gone? It’s still a baby due to the overt concentration and still lacking a little grace, but a wine of (now!) obvious potential. Probably still not ‘ready’ for at least 5 more years but I’ll take today’s ‘drinkable.’ In fact, I’m quite enjoying it, even the second glass (shock) – there’s more than a decent chance for the remaining 4 or 5 bottles…
Rebuy – Maybe

Agree? Disagree? Anything you'd like to add?

There are 4 responses to “RSV – what a difference a little patience makes…”

  1. Brian Robson.5th January 2024 at 10:23 amPermalinkReply

    Hi Bill, I sold this wine in California upon release as manager of the Moillard estates back then and retailers were shocked at the low prices. I told them it would take 25yrs to come around ! Also made in the same way and worth looking for if you can find them from the same label 1999 Chambertin, Chambertin Beze, Bonnes Mares,RSV,VR Malconsorts,Echezeux, with pretty consistent notes. Cheers and keep up the good work.

    • billn5th January 2024 at 10:40 amPermalinkReply

      Great Info Brian – and you were spot on!

  2. Don Cornwell7th January 2024 at 3:44 amPermalinkReply

    This makes me wonder how my 12-bottle case of 2005 Charles Thomas VR Malconsorts is doing. This was their last vintage as they sold the vines to Montille. I tasted one (which was excellent) before buying two cases (one for a friend) for $48 a bottle. It tied with Hospice de Beaune (Le Moine) Volnay Santenots for the least expensive wines I purchased from 2005.

  3. Wilf Jaeger21st February 2024 at 10:44 pmPermalinkReply

    Hi. Good to hear from a fellow fan of RomaneenSt Vivant. You are quite right, the first wine made from my parcel was in 2005. Turns out that I bought the vineyard well into the summer so that first vintage was not technically Domain bottled. The 2006 and all subsequent wines are Domaine Dujac.

    I must chuckle at your sources regarding the “all is not well between the two parties” comment. The Jaeger family and the Seysses family have been close for many years. We have always maintained a wonderful relationship. Jeremy and I are close buddies.

    As to why they don’t show the RSV, it is typical that wines that are not Domain owned are not shown without the express permission of the land owner. You can see how this is the only respectful approach.

    I am grateful to Diana and Jeremy for the attention and love that they pour into our little piece of Vosne heaven.

    Best to you.


    • billn22nd February 2024 at 7:16 amPermalinkReply

      Dear Wilf
      Delighted to hear that all is good – it just underlines that you shouldn’t believe all that you hear 🙂
      Enjoy your RSVs – I’m currently asking myself how I’m going to get through the ones that I’ve amassed – first world problems !!
      All my best & cheers!

  4. Roguetruffle31st May 2024 at 10:30 pmPermalinkReply

    Who made the 2005 Dujac RSV? I believe Jeremy claimed he made it but it bears his negoce label instead of the regular label. So does that mean he didn’t manage the growing that year but did manage the winemaking?

    • billn4th June 2024 at 3:50 pmPermalinkReply

      Dujac made the wine.
      It’s not a domaine wine as it was a third party – Wilf Jaeger – who bought the vines.
      Wilf entrusted the vineyard work and winemaking to Dujac.
      Hope that helps…

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