removing clarity – what’s the story…?

Update 15.11.2012(14.11.2012)billn

I can but speculate.

But unfortunately this page is not currently in-line for an update.

Sadly, this valuable resource (valuable not just for me I’m sure) currently has no ‘vintage 2011’ update for yields by appellation. I found many aspects of this annual document useful when writing FWOB, and Clive Coates used to use the summary information for every one of his vintage reports, but my contact in Beaune now tells me that ‘the direction no-longer want to make this information public’. Is this to remove any semblance of clarity when it comes to the very low yields of 2012 and whatever pricing they attract? Or some other reason?

Right now it’s hard to say, but it is a retrograde step for any organisation that prides itself on openness, it also leads to ill-informed speculation – just like this…

Agree? Disagree? Anything you'd like to add?

There are 5 responses to “removing clarity – what’s the story…?”

  1. Phil Eaves14th November 2012 at 7:06 pmPermalinkReply

    Bill, I think you have opened a very serious debate, for many years I could print out production by village, premier cru and grand cru per commune in both HL and HA in production, but with their revised website this was unavailable despite many attempts by email nothing. More recently I sent an email(3 readers)to their communication department asking whom they could advise would be able to confirm the size of a few specific premier cru vineyards result zero response not even a sorry unable to help just zero response. I find it sad that the once very communicative and helpful,to this amateur anyway, BIVB have become very non user sympathetic even possibly obstructive? Cheers Phil

  2. coilycodpeace14th November 2012 at 9:20 pmPermalinkReply

    I think that this comes back to the old ‘adage’ that knowledge is power, and this information could be used by consumers, merchants and agents alike when the prices skyrocket with the 2012 which I think they will do. I don’t believe that this is just ideal speculation but fact. I was in Burgundy last week tasting the 2011s and the evidence of the small number of 2012 barrels in each and every cellar I visited was pretty startling. Producers were as you would expect tight lipped as to what they thought would happen to prices, but things do not look promising. As both Bill and Phil have already echoed above the information was very useful and will be greatly missed if this is the path that the BIVB are heading down.

  3. Jancis Robinson15th November 2012 at 1:34 pmPermalinkReply

    I think the least the organisation can do is give a formal explanation of this regrettable change of ‘direction’.

  4. billn21st November 2012 at 7:47 amPermalinkReply

    After some indecision, the BIVB have now decided that they will make the 2011 harvest volumes publicly available – for which I offer my thanks. I will, in due-course, update the harvest volumes page – most-likely in January.

  5. Wild Bill NV25th November 2012 at 8:46 pmPermalinkReply

    What does this have to do with Guffens case, and the rather Kafkaesque behavior of the French Authorities. Do Gallus cigarettes now have a warning or is Eddie Condon and all his friends still in the dark?

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