update for the jacks

Update 13.10.2006(3.10.2006)billn

fourrierOvernight what’s the change in these two Clos St.Jacques??

Fourrier has less oak on the nose and also the palate – it’s like a veil has been lifted a little. The nose is now a little more floral with a savoury aspect replacing the juvenile oak. I would say that this is now on the same level as the Jadot.

Jadot has had very little change – it remains a pure wine that seems like a coiled spring. Wonderful precision too. Without 3 hours in decanter I would choose this any day over the Fourrier – but in 5 years who knows(?) For the record, neither wine has any bitterness on day 2.

As a counterpoint:
2001 Bachelet, Gevrey-Chambertin Les Corbeaux Vieilles Vignes
Medium-plus cherry-red. The nose starts a little funky and diffuse, only a little time is required to lose the funk and provide a wide, slighty warm and deep effect, eventually it’s a lovely redcurrant nose. Almost as intense as the two Jacques, equally mouth-watering and similarly long. The overall profile is slightly more rustic with some grain to the tannin, but as this tannin fades you will edge ever closer to a cut-price Clos St.Jacques. Heartilly recommended.try to find this wine...Rebuy – Yes

Agree? Disagree? Anything you'd like to add?

There are 5 responses to “update for the jacks”

  1. Mark Palmer4th October 2006 at 3:00 pmPermalinkReply


    I wonder if the “redcurrant” is a function of the terroir. The only Bachelet Les Corbeaux I’ve had is the 2000 which was almost identical to your note. I’ve tasted a few other Bachelet crus in other vintages and none of the others display anything remotely red fruited.

  2. bill nanson4th October 2006 at 3:17 pmPermalinkReply

    Could be Mark, though the Bachelet ’96 Charmes also gave me similar a impression. Of-course what your really asking here is to get 20 different Corbeaux’s on one table with a little bread and cheese.

    Scientific research can be tough…
    Cheers, Bill
    PS The aromaticly fabulous de Vogüé 99 Amoureuses is also a redcurrant beastie

  3. Mark Palmer4th October 2006 at 3:43 pmPermalinkReply

    Funnily enough Bill, Linden and I have split bottles of this twice and have both decided that it’s a black fruited Gevrey animal monster (to quote Linden’s slurred description)…

    I’d volunteer to help you sample the Corbeaux vertical, but suspect that the de Vogue Amoureuses may be spectacularly beyond my means.

  4. bill nanson4th October 2006 at 3:48 pmPermalinkReply

    You know, I might have been there with you one of those times 😉

    1996 Bachelet Denis Charmes-Chambertin
    July, 2005
    Very deep colour. The nose starts with a little pine and then beautiful intense red fruit – reminds me of the 99 de Vogüé Amoureuses – a superb ‘sniffers’ wine. The palate is young and athletic – too young – but very balanced. A wine in waiting, but aromatically wonderful.

  5. THuRStoN5th October 2006 at 7:30 amPermalinkReply

    Well I’ve also tasted a Bachelet Premier Cru “Les Corbeaux” Vieilles Vignes 2000 last year. And it turned to be quite dominated by reduction descriptors, such as: fermented milk, a small hint of cheese at first. But as time went by, the wine transformed itself completely, then red fruit and earthy (Pu-Erh) notes. A long, intense and silky palate, dominated by red fruit.

    I liked it so much that I bought another bottle, so in the case that Les Corbeaux vertical happens you can count me in :^).


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