This past Friday I had the privilege of attending a once in a lifetime tasting of Grand Cru's from Chambolle- Musigny. We tasted: Pierre Olivier Bonnes Mares 1964; Comte de Vogue Musigny 1976, 1990, 1999; Jacques Prieur Musigny 1978; Louis Jadot Musigny 1990; Louis Jadot Bonnes Mares 1990; Mugnier Musigny 1988 and 1999. They were all incredible so to rate them would be an injustice. The wine of the evening was the Olivier Bonnes Mares 1964. It was 48 years old and still incredible! It not only endured but evolved. It had beautiful balance, length and finish. It was complex and smooth. Probably one of the most incredible Burgundy's I will ever taste! I have tried to find information on Pierre Olivier with little to be found. Does anyone know his background and if he is still making wine?
Chambolle Musigny Tasting
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I'll be amazed if he is making wine still - even if '64 was his first vintage, aged 17 - he's still reached his pension. Just as likely that 'Pierre' is no longer with us.
That said, there actually is still a Pierre Olivier, in theory based in NSG - I say 'in theory' only because it is a négoce label that crops up in supermarkets, so could just be a brand these days...
Thanks for the info. Regarding Comte de Vogue; is this Domaine still one of the best producers? It "fell down" in the late 70's and 80's from possibly for vineyard practices and overcropping. Can you elaborate?
More likely, what I think they did was something similar to Faiveley; they were making wines that were hard and unfriendly in their youth - at least versus their peer group. Notes on wines from the 70s and 80s seem not so bad now, or at least the ones that I see, so I think they do come around. I have the impression that they were slowly getting bored of the critique and just polished a few barrel-type things here and there, because from 2000 onwards I think they are at the top of their game. I have 98 and 99 in the cellar and expect them to be great also, but they were clearly less giving in their youth...
Hope that helps some...
Bill, Thanks for your response. As always, you are very helpful.
From memory, the brand Pierre Olivier (no relation) was a sous-marque of Moillard. In the UK in the 1970's, Pierre Olivier and its sister brand Moreau Fontaine had a sizeable presence in the UK.. It was characteristic of the wines from the Thomas cellars ( owners and managers of Moillard) that they could be tough and ungainly in their youth and adolescence, but that in their maturity they blossomed into an elegant voluptuousness. I have some 1988 from the same source, and am fairly sure that I should hang on until nearer to its thirtieth birthday.
Great Infos Oliverus - thanks. Many of the older TMs were pretty indestructable, and the BM could even have come from TM's own vines I suppose...
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